Comments on: Embrace the Scroll

By: ndwl

ndwl — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:38:12 +0000

Scrolling is OK within reason, and can even have some advantages, such as giving a page apparent weight/depth of knowledge on a particular subject, however even with a ‘mighty mouse’ scrolling through #55 (now #56) comments is pushing it!

By: Pete Boere

Pete Boere — Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:27:44 +0000

If you give anyone a flier, they check the back to see where it ends; before you start reading a letter you first see how long it is so that you know how long it’s going to take to process the information.
As the majority of websites have vertical scrolling then people just roll their mouse wheel without thinking about it, whether there’s anything to scroll or not- that’s not based on research but observation- basic human intuition has always been making up for inaccessible content, because missing it, in many cases has larger implications.
On the web scrolling isn’t difficult or unintuitive, so it can hardly be called an accesibility issue- when given due common sense in their application.

By: Denise

Denise — Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:23:02 +0000

I think giving the “scroll to the bottom” reader something as a reward is a good idea. I will definitely be working on my bottom — EH! That just sounds so “wrong!”
LOL
Meanwhile, I’m building tables so I can get most of the links above the “fold”
Doesn’t make sense to add content to my blog since it is a major shopping site and will have over 600 links, but perhaps adding a newsletter with facts about listed company history, a stock ticker, current information, sales & coupons would interest those who scroll down.

By: steve

steve — Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:01:51 +0000

Scrolling is a sin when the whole page scrolls so that your navigation, and all the “branding” for your site can disappear. Please, please, use divs with a css defined height and overflow:auto
:) Steve

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:33:04 +0000

Be disappointed no further, though alas, this pitiful addition may not be worth the roll down.
May I interest you however, in scrolling up to the top?
And painfully scroll backwards we must as our generous host as found limits in his generosity and thus neglected a “jumpback tag”.
To the Scroll then, good sir!

By: Phil

Phil — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 05:42:13 +0000

Having scrolled down, fascinated by the discussion, to become number 51, I am somewhat disappointed that there is not more at the page bottom.

By: Dan

Dan — Tue, 04 Oct 2005 01:48:46 +0000

It’s rubbish about non-scrollage. The only people who don’t are the computer illiterate who haven’t yet been taught that you can. You turn pages of a book, don’t you? Then by hokey you’ll scroll! People also turn DVD and such cases around to read the back!

By: Mohamed Marwen Meddah

Mohamed Marwen Meddah — Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:45:30 +0000

I personally really liked the way Powazek explained it, and totally agree that it’s rather rude to your good readers, who do scroll down to the end of the page, to just give them a copyright message and let them go.
You should at least give them somewhere to go after that.
Anyway, I’m not so sure about moving everything to the bottom, although it looks magnificent design-wise. But still functionality-wise, it might be a bit restricting.
Another important factor, I think, is how much content there’ll be on the page; If you’ve got one or two articles, then you can allow yourself to move everything below them, but if you have more content, then it won’t work quite the same.
I’m thinking of experimenting a bit with these ideas on my blog and maybe moving some elements south, but certainly not everything.

By: Tom

Tom — Tue, 27 Sep 2005 01:41:10 +0000

Regardless of whether or not it’s practical (and in this case, it seems to lean towards being fairly useful), it’s “different” and catches the eye initially. I think it’s a well done site which appeals to most graphic designers.
Unfortunately, the media and public aren’t going to catch on quickly. As nice as it looks, it probably wouldn’t work well for anything other than a technical or personal blog.

By: Sean Scott

Sean Scott — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:38:47 +0000

From visiting the site in question from stylegala, the first thing i noticed was the header and then the lack of navigation. I quickly looked to the right nothing, scroll down a litle bit nothing again.
The problem with a bottom scrollbar is that if there is no indication of its presence and surfers (new visitors that is) are not in the mood to go through the current thesis on the page, it won’t be seen.
Now to address the issue of above the fold and marketing. Asking the user to scroll to see your entire message is like saying please turn the page to see the full ad. Sure it can work but 8 times out of ten it won’t (btw that number was not scientifically derived)
Just an observation.