Comments on: SimpleQuiz › Site and Page Titles › Conclusion http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/ Handcrafted pixels & text from Salem, Massachusetts. Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:15:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Vidar R http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-638 Vidar R Mon, 12 Jul 2004 16:17:31 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-638 I'm not sure I agree with "The logo doesn't need to be a heading, and may live nicely in a div where it could be <em>replaced with a background graphic using CSS</em>" (my emphasis) Wouldn't the logo be considered "information" (not just style), and thus be declared as an img element? I’m not sure I agree with
“The logo doesn’t need to be a heading, and may live nicely in a div where it could be replaced with a background graphic using CSS” (my emphasis)
Wouldn’t the logo be considered “information” (not just style), and thus be declared as an img element?

]]> By: Tim H. http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-637 Tim H. Tue, 08 Jun 2004 23:37:17 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-637 In the above example, I would structure the <code>title</code> with the company name first, some sort of seperator, and then the page title. This way if a user has two pages from the same site bookmarked they are next to eachother in their alphabetized list. Just my 2 cents on an old topic. :) In the above example, I would structure the title with the company name first, some sort of seperator, and then the page title. This way if a user has two pages from the same site bookmarked they are next to eachother in their alphabetized list.
Just my 2 cents on an old topic. :)

]]> By: Peter J. http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-636 Peter J. Sun, 28 Sep 2003 08:59:09 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-636 Regarding the <code><h0></code> metaphor, I saw this trick used in an experimental context several months ago: <code><html></code> <code><head></code> <code><title>Page Title</title></code> <code><style type="text/css"></code> <code> head { display: block; }</code> <code> head * { display: none; }</code> <code> title { display:block; }</code> <code></style></code> <code></head></code> <code><body></code> <code><h1>First Heading</h1></code> <code></body></code> <code></html></code> As I recall it's not particularly browser-compatible: it works in Gecko but not IE, for example. Regarding the <h0> metaphor, I saw this trick used in an experimental context several months ago:
<html>
<head>
<title>Page Title</title>
<style type="text/css">
 head { display: block; }
 head * { display: none; }
 title { display:block; }
</style>
</head>
<body>
<h1>First Heading</h1>
</body>
</html>
As I recall it’s not particularly browser-compatible: it works in Gecko but not IE, for example.

]]> By: Ethan http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-635 Ethan Tue, 16 Sep 2003 23:52:24 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-635 A la <a href="http://www.sidesh0w.com/static/demos/css/bgclip/" rel="nofollow">this example</a>, perhaps? Works for me in Firebird, WinIE6, Safari 1.0, and MacIE5... A la this example, perhaps? Works for me in Firebird, WinIE6, Safari 1.0, and MacIE5…

]]> By: Ethan http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-634 Ethan Tue, 16 Sep 2003 23:45:49 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-634 What if you set the clipping on your <code>#ex1</code> element (<code>clip: rect(0, 243px, 133px, 0);</code>)? What if you set the clipping on your #ex1 element (clip: rect(0, 243px, 133px, 0);)?

]]> By: Dan http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-633 Dan Tue, 16 Sep 2003 23:38:01 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-633 Matt - Hmm, interesting. Looks like using <code>p</code> works, which could be argued as an even a better element choice for replacing a text logo. The unstyled view will certainly format nicely. Or, there's always the <a href="http://www.digital-web.com/features/feature_2003-08.shtml" title="In Defense of Fahrner Image Replacement" rel="nofollow">Fahrner Image Replacement</a> method, which despite getting a (probably deserved) bad accessibility rap, is pretty bullet-proof (CSS-wise). Matt – Hmm, interesting. Looks like using p works, which could be argued as an even a better element choice for replacing a text logo. The unstyled view will certainly format nicely.
Or, there’s always the Fahrner Image Replacement method, which despite getting a (probably deserved) bad accessibility rap, is pretty bullet-proof (CSS-wise).

]]> By: Matt Haughey http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-632 Matt Haughey Tue, 16 Sep 2003 23:18:16 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-632 Dang, this puts a wrench into things: <a href="http://a.wholelottanothing.org/archives.blah/007428" rel="nofollow">I just found out</a> that Mac IE 5 can't do image replacement on anything other than header elements. Dang, this puts a wrench into things: I just found out that Mac IE 5 can’t do image replacement on anything other than header elements.

]]> By: Dave S. http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-631 Dave S. Tue, 16 Sep 2003 20:04:38 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-631 What does 'conclusion' mean? Whoa. A semantic meta-discussion on a discussion about semantics. How incredibly... boring. What does ‘conclusion’ mean?
Whoa. A semantic meta-discussion on a discussion about semantics. How incredibly… boring.

]]> By: Dan http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-630 Dan Tue, 16 Sep 2003 19:24:08 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-630 alex - I agree, it's the quality of the comments that continues to make this valuable. Thanks to all. alex – I agree, it’s the quality of the comments that continues to make this valuable. Thanks to all.

]]> By: alex http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-629 alex Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:26:59 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/15/simplequiz-site-and-page-titles-conclusion/#comment-629 One of the reasons I think we're all enjoying these so much is the constructive manner in which everyone is taking part in the discussion. Kudos to Dan and his readers. :) One of the reasons I think we’re all enjoying these so much is the constructive manner in which everyone is taking part in the discussion. Kudos to Dan and his readers. :)

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