http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/ Handcrafted pixels & text from Salem, Massachusetts. Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:15:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-593 Scott Cropper Thu, 03 Mar 2005 18:10:35 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-593 After reading Dan's conclusion then the best answer is 'B'. Using the <code>div</code> and the <code>p</code> tag together gives the best results. If a paragraph gets added, nothing breaks and existing code does not need to be modified. The <code>div</code> allows easy styling in a regular browser and the <code>p</code> gives the needed result in the case of un-styled browsers. Using only one will require more changes when the time comes...and it usually does. That brings up another thought. When a redesign occurs, how much change really happens? I would think that some of the content tags often get modified and not just the CSS which is the goal. The CSS Zen Garden shows its possible, but how often do we end up changing more than just the CSS to get results? If the original document is semantically correct then the original would only need to be changed in the case of missing or additional information and not too modify existing tags to help change presentation. After reading Dan’s conclusion then the best answer is ‘B’. Using the div and the p tag together gives the best results. If a paragraph gets added, nothing breaks and existing code does not need to be modified. The div allows easy styling in a regular browser and the p gives the needed result in the case of un-styled browsers. Using only one will require more changes when the time comes…and it usually does.
That brings up another thought. When a redesign occurs, how much change really happens? I would think that some of the content tags often get modified and not just the CSS which is the goal. The CSS Zen Garden shows its possible, but how often do we end up changing more than just the CSS to get results? If the original document is semantically correct then the original would only need to be changed in the case of missing or additional information and not too modify existing tags to help change presentation.

]]> http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-592 Jules Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:26:34 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-592 Well, there are (X)HTML validation and CSS validation - I think Dan needs SPELLING validation too. It is spelt arbitrary, not arbitra<strong>t</strong>ry. Well, there are (X)HTML validation and CSS validation – I think Dan needs SPELLING validation too. It is spelt arbitrary, not arbitratry.

]]> http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-591 Jonathan Porter Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:17:14 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-591 Good piece, but <code>address</code> <strong>is not</strong> for an address per se. The W3C states, "The ADDRESS element may be used by authors to supply contact information for a document or a major part of a document such as a form. This element often appears at the beginning or end of a document." So <em>address</em> information is a bit shortsided. Good piece, but address is not for an address per se. The W3C states, “The ADDRESS element may be used by authors to supply contact information for a document or a major part of a document such as a form. This element often appears at the beginning or end of a document.” So address information is a bit shortsided.

]]> http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-590 Charles Crabtree Thu, 11 Sep 2003 23:09:15 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-590 Quick note about the newly colored sidebars - the orange is nice, but I am really enjoying the blue and purple. Great work. Quick note about the newly colored sidebars – the orange is nice, but I am really enjoying the blue and purple. Great work.

]]> http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-589 ceejayoz Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:45:29 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-589 Dan - just a note - with the newly colored sidebars, the text "<code>SimpleBits is a place for Dan Cederholm to collect everything he does on the web.</code>" on the front page is difficult to read... Also, the sidebar coloring doesn't show up in the comment preview window, making the <code>Misc.</code> block difficult to read as well. Dan – just a note – with the newly colored sidebars, the text “SimpleBits is a place for Dan Cederholm to collect everything he does on the web.” on the front page is difficult to read…
Also, the sidebar coloring doesn’t show up in the comment preview window, making the Misc. block difficult to read as well.

]]> http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-588 Dan Thu, 11 Sep 2003 14:28:34 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-588 Thanks for the missing <code></code></code>. Should be better now. Stayed tuned for another quiz. Fred - Heh heh. Good one. Thanks for the missing </code>. Should be better now.
Stayed tuned for another quiz.
Fred – Heh heh. Good one.

]]> http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-587 Fred Smith Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:52:21 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-587 Does "unstyled viewer" refer to the straight guy on Queer Eye? Does “unstyled viewer” refer to the straight guy on Queer Eye?

]]> http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-586 Ben Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:12:18 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-586 There I was, all satisfied that my site looked good, loaded quick and validated proper. Semantics? Seems I've still got some work to do... Thanks, keep 'em coming! There I was, all satisfied that my site looked good, loaded quick and validated proper. Semantics? Seems I’ve still got some work to do…
Thanks, keep ‘em coming!

]]> http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-585 Raena Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:51:18 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-585 Ack! It stripped my </code>?! Phooey, I thought I was doing someone a favour. Ack! It stripped my </code>?! Phooey, I thought I was doing someone a favour.

]]> http://simplebits.com/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-584 Raena Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:49:41 +0000 http://www.simplebits.com/wp/notebook/2003/09/10/simplequiz-when-to-p-conclusion/#comment-584 must... close... code... Ah, better. ;) These conversations rock. :) must… close… code…
Ah, better. ;)
These conversations rock. :)

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